Talk:Durin I

Mannish "King", TÛR

A bit too speculative for my taste, tbf. -- Ederchil 04:31, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

Move

To Durin? (Which redirects here anyway.) --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would be better, imho.--Morgan 15:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

And merge with The Deathless. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 20:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, +1 one on that too.--Morgan 21:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Almost 13 years late but should this still be moved to Durin? Éowyn (talk) 22:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Age

I don't get why Durin should have reached the an age of "at least 2395 years". He was born several years before the Dwarves entered Beleriand in 1250 Y.T., alright. Where on earth do these 2395 years come from? It's the remaining time until Sun and Moon are created. But I don't how this is connected. He died before the First Age ended, indeed, but this actually means he could have died already in 1251 Y.T. There's absolutely NO evidence that he survived the Trees (except if there's mentioned somewhere that he knew Sun and Moon). --Thalion 20:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Reincarnation

This article uses the Nature of Middle-earth's explanation of reincarnation, that Durin's reincarnation is caused by his soul returning to his preserved body. But is that canon? Appendix A clearly says that the reincarnated Durins are "born" of Durin's Line, which is incompatible with the Nature of Middle-earth. Amandacil (talk) 21:34, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Well spotted. I agree that the theory of Durin's soul returning to a preserved adult body in the last paragraph of Text 3 dating to 1972-1973 in the chapter XV Elvish Reincarnation of The Nature of Middle-earth conflicts with the statement "but his line never failed, and five times an heir was born in his House so like to his Forefather that he received the name of Durin." in the second paragraph of the section III Durin's Folk of Appendix A of The Lord of the Rings. As a consequence, this theory should be removed from the main sections of the article and moved to an Other versions of the legendarium section of the article. --Akhôrahil (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2023 (UTC)