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Since Arvernien means "Land outside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of [[Nimbrethil]] or [[Lisgardh]].
Since Arvernien means "Land outside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of [[Nimbrethil]] or [[Lisgardh]].
==Etymology==
==Etymology==
Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree". It could be related or refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.<ref>This connection was suggested by the [[Encyclopedia of Arda]], although it referred to ''Arvernien'', without acknowledging the existence of ''Verna'' as an independent word[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/arvernien.html].</ref> Another possibility is that it refers to a river, and Verna comes from the [[root]] ''[[WER]]'', "winding" (thus, "Winding River").<ref>[[David Salo]], ''[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34598 Message 34598]'', [[Elfling]]</ref>
Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree". It could be related or refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.<ref>This connection was suggested by the [[Encyclopedia of Arda]], although it referred to ''Arvernien'', without acknowledging the existence of ''Verna'' as an independent word[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/arvernien.html].</ref> Another possibility is that it refers to a river obviously [[Sirion]], and comes from the [[root]] ''[[WER]]'', "winding" (thus, "Winding River").<ref>[[David Salo]], ''[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34598 Message 34598]'', [[Elfling]]</ref>
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[[category:Southwest Beleriand]]
[[category:Southwest Beleriand]]

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Verna is an obscure location in southwest Beleriand near the Mouths of Sirion.

Arvernien was named after it.

Inspiration

Verna does not appear in narration or any maps of Beleriand; in the real world Tolkien probably derived it in order to explain "Arvernien"[1].

Since Arvernien means "Land outside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of Nimbrethil or Lisgardh.

Etymology

Verna could be related to Quenya feren which means "birch, beech tree". It could be related or refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.[2] Another possibility is that it refers to a river obviously Sirion, and comes from the root WER, "winding" (thus, "Winding River").[3]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings" (edited by Christopher Gilson), published in Parma Eldalamberon 17 (July 2007), p. 19
  2. This connection was suggested by the Encyclopedia of Arda, although it referred to Arvernien, without acknowledging the existence of Verna as an independent word[1].
  3. David Salo, Message 34598, Elfling