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'''Verna''' is an obscure place of southwest [[Beleriand]] near the [[Mouths of Sirion]].
'''Verna''' was an obscure location in southwest [[Beleriand]] near the [[Mouths of Sirion]].


[[Arvernien]] was named after it.
[[Arvernien]] was named after it.
==Inspiration==
==Inspiration==
Verna does not appear in narration or any maps of Beleriand; in the real world Tolkien probably derived it in order to explain "Arvernien"<ref>[[J.R.R. Tolkien]], "Words, Phrases and Passages in ''The Lord of the Rings''" (edited by [[Christopher Gilson]]), published in [[Parma Eldalamberon]] 17 (July [[2007]]), p. 19</ref>.
Verna does not appear in narration or any maps of Beleriand; [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] appears to have invented the name in order to explain the etymology of ''Arvernien''.<ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 19</ref> Since Tolkien explains Arvernien as "Land beside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of [[Nimbrethil]] or [[Lisgardh]].


Since Arvernien means "Land outside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of [[Nimbrethil]] or [[Lisgardh]].
==Etymology==
==Etymology==
Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree". It could be related or refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.
Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree", and if so, it could refer to the forest of Nimbrethil ("(forest of) silver birches").<ref>This connection was suggested by the [[Encyclopedia of Arda]], and it referred to ''Arvernien'', without acknowledging the existence of ''Verna'' as an independent word[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/arvernien.html].</ref> Another possibility is that it refers to a river, obviously [[Sirion]], and comes from the [[Sundocarmë|Root]] ''[[WER]]'', "winding" (thus, "Winding River").<ref>[[David Salo]], ''[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34598 Message 34598]'', [[Elfling]]</ref>
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Revision as of 18:05, 8 November 2020

Verna was an obscure location in southwest Beleriand near the Mouths of Sirion.

Arvernien was named after it.

Inspiration

Verna does not appear in narration or any maps of Beleriand; Tolkien appears to have invented the name in order to explain the etymology of Arvernien.[1] Since Tolkien explains Arvernien as "Land beside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of Nimbrethil or Lisgardh.

Etymology

Verna could be related to Quenya feren which means "birch, beech tree", and if so, it could refer to the forest of Nimbrethil ("(forest of) silver birches").[2] Another possibility is that it refers to a river, obviously Sirion, and comes from the Root WER, "winding" (thus, "Winding River").[3]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases and Passages in Various Tongues in The Lord of the Rings", in Parma Eldalamberon XVII (edited by Christopher Gilson), p. 19
  2. This connection was suggested by the Encyclopedia of Arda, and it referred to Arvernien, without acknowledging the existence of Verna as an independent word[1].
  3. David Salo, Message 34598, Elfling