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Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree", and if so, it could refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.<ref>This connection was suggested by the [[Encyclopedia of Arda]], and it referred to ''Arvernien'', without acknowledging the existence of ''Verna'' as an independent word[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/arvernien.html].</ref> Another possibility is that it refers to a river, obviously [[Sirion]], and comes from the [[Sundocarmë|Root]] ''[[WER]]'', "winding" (thus, "Winding River").<ref>[[David Salo]], ''[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34598 Message 34598]'', [[Elfling]]</ref>
Verna could be related to [[Quenya]] ''[[feren]]'' which means "birch, beech tree", and if so, it could refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.<ref>This connection was suggested by the [[Encyclopedia of Arda]], and it referred to ''Arvernien'', without acknowledging the existence of ''Verna'' as an independent word[http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/a/arvernien.html].</ref> Another possibility is that it refers to a river, obviously [[Sirion]], and comes from the [[Sundocarmë|Root]] ''[[WER]]'', "winding" (thus, "Winding River").<ref>[[David Salo]], ''[http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34598 Message 34598]'', [[Elfling]]</ref>
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Verna is an obscure location in southwest Beleriand near the Mouths of Sirion.

Arvernien was named after it.

Inspiration

Verna does not appear in narration or any maps of Beleriand; in the real world Tolkien probably derived the word in order to explain "Arvernien".[1] Since Tolkien explains Arvernien as "Land outside Verna", geographically, Verna could refer to adjacent regions like the forest of Nimbrethil or Lisgardh.

Etymology

Verna could be related to Quenya feren which means "birch, beech tree", and if so, it could refer to the forest of Nimbrethil.[2] Another possibility is that it refers to a river, obviously Sirion, and comes from the Root WER, "winding" (thus, "Winding River").[3]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Words, Phrases and Passages in The Lord of the Rings" (edited by Christopher Gilson), published in Parma Eldalamberon 17 (July 2007), p. 19
  2. This connection was suggested by the Encyclopedia of Arda, and it referred to Arvernien, without acknowledging the existence of Verna as an independent word[1].
  3. David Salo, Message 34598, Elfling