https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&feed=atom&action=historyUser talk:Morgan - Revision history2024-03-29T02:16:23ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=350103&oldid=prevLuotiansha: /* A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition */2022-07-15T16:51:40Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition</span></span></p>
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</table>Luotianshahttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=350094&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition */2022-07-15T13:56:55Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition</span></span></p>
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</table>Akhorahilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=350093&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition */2022-07-15T13:55:23Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">A check on the A Reader's Companion 2008 edition</span></span></p>
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</table>Luotianshahttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=323631&oldid=prevAkhorahil: Provided the references to examples that were requested by Morgan2020-11-20T10:11:53Z<p>Provided the references to examples that were requested by Morgan</p>
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</table>Akhorahilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=323605&oldid=prevMorgan: /* MERP */2020-11-19T19:15:34Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">MERP</span></span></p>
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</table>Morganhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=323346&oldid=prevAkhorahil at 19:42, 10 November 20202020-11-10T19:42:53Z<p></p>
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</table>Akhorahilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Morgan&diff=311267&oldid=prevHoldwine Meriadoc: Undo revision 311261 by 31.128.69.146 (talk) Spam2020-03-12T21:55:48Z<p>Undo revision 311261 by <a href="/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.128.69.146" title="Special:Contributions/31.128.69.146">31.128.69.146</a> (<a href="/w/index.php?title=User_talk:31.128.69.146&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="User talk:31.128.69.146 (page does not exist)">talk</a>) Spam</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron/Orc names]] I tried to figure out what the names of the orcs mean, and i apparently manage to figure out some. My question is, is it safe to add the etymologies in the articles? thank you--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 08:40, 12 April 2017 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{redlink|</ins>[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron/Orc names]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">}} </ins>I tried to figure out what the names of the orcs mean, and i apparently manage to figure out some. My question is, is it safe to add the etymologies in the articles? thank you--[[User:LordAndSaviourSauron|LordAndSaviourSauron]] 08:40, 12 April 2017 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Meaning and etymologies of names in the legendarium (such as names of Orcs) should only be explained by references to Tolkien's works and/or linguistic sources by Tolkien scholars. The page on David Salo's blog is neither of these (it's a list of Orcish in ''The Hobbit'' films), and the information can therefore not be added to etymology sections in articles at Tolkien Gateway. Feel free, however, to work on the list on your personal page, as you already have done. Just let me know if you have further questions!--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 10:06, 12 April 2017 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Meaning and etymologies of names in the legendarium (such as names of Orcs) should only be explained by references to Tolkien's works and/or linguistic sources by Tolkien scholars. The page on David Salo's blog is neither of these (it's a list of Orcish in ''The Hobbit'' films), and the information can therefore not be added to etymology sections in articles at Tolkien Gateway. Feel free, however, to work on the list on your personal page, as you already have done. Just let me know if you have further questions!--[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 10:06, 12 April 2017 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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