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*Why didn't Orodreth send Finduilas to Círdan for safekeeping at the same time as Gil-galad?
*Why didn't Orodreth send Finduilas to Círdan for safekeeping at the same time as Gil-galad?
**What years were Finduilas and Gil-galad born?  
**What years were Finduilas and Gil-galad born?  
**My speculation on the subject is as follows:
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***Finduilas was already an adult when Minas Tirith fell to Sauron so there was no need to protect her in that way, whereas Gil-galad was a child (somewhere between 20ish and 40ish years old).
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***We know that some of Angrod's (and presumably Aegnor's) people also went to the Havens after the fall of Dorthonion, so Orodreth's family would not be alone among the Noldor of the House of Finarfin in forsaking Nargothrond.
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***I expect the family would have had a chance to reunite before the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, certainly after Lúthien drove Sauron out of Tol-in-Gaurhoth and the Sons of Fëanor were expelled from Nargothrond, but maybe the situation in West Beleriand was still too dicey for such a journey to be undertaken safely.  
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****Maybe Gil-galad and his mother just had no desire to return to Orodreth, or recognized that the bridge was a bad call and wanted no part of it. Big oof in that case.
| • Finduilas was already an adult when Minas Tirith fell to Sauron in {{FA|456}} so there was no need to protect her in that way, whereas Gil-galad was a child (somewhere between 20ish and 40ish years old).
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| • We know that some of Angrod's (and presumably Aegnor's) people also went to the Havens after the fall of Dorthonion in {{FA|455}}, so Orodreth's family would not be alone among the Noldor of the House of Finarfin in forsaking Nargothrond.
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| • The family could potentially have reunited after the Sons of Fëanor were expelled from Nargothrond in {{FA|465}}, but West Beleriand was still dangerous and such a journey may have been considered too risky.
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| • Maybe Gil-galad and his mother just had no desire to return to Orodreth, or after {{FA|490}} recognized that the bridge was a bad call and wanted no part of it. Big oof in that case.
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==Things I like==
==Things I like==
* [http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm FAQ of the Rings] – Mostly great information and some interesting speculation about the Rings of Power.
* [http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm FAQ of the Rings] – Mostly great information and some interesting speculation about the Rings of Power.
* [https://ymarkov.livejournal.com/280578.html The Last Ringbearer] – The very best fan fiction ever written, and possibly the only work of fan fiction with genuine literary merit.
* [https://ymarkov.livejournal.com/280578.html The Last Ringbearer] – The very best fan fiction ever written, and possibly the only work of fan fiction with genuine literary merit.

Revision as of 07:25, 14 December 2020

I used to be the anonymous editor 75.118.149.152 (contribs) (talk), but I grew a name of my own.

Unanswerable questions that keep me up nights

Fourth Age

  • What happened to Elladan and Elrohir?
  • When exactly did Celeborn leave Middle-earth? Did he leave before 171 and Findegil just didn't know about it? If after, when?
    • Did Círdan (and/or literally all remaining Elves of the First Age) actually take ship with Celeborn, or are we being overly literal in our interpretation of "the last living memory of the Elder Days?" Bombadil and Treebeard are still around, after all.
  • Were there any Noldor at all remaining in Middle-earth after the White Ship left? The Silmarillion suggests not, Appendix A hedges.
    • Did any Noldor remain after the Last Ship left?
    • Did any Noldor or Sindar choose to fade in Middle-earth rather than leave?
    • Did anyone else build their own ship (cf. Legolas) after the "Last" Ship?
    • Did any of the Silvans or Avari go West?

First Age

  • Why didn't Orodreth send Finduilas to Círdan for safekeeping at the same time as Gil-galad?
    • What years were Finduilas and Gil-galad born?

Things I like

  • FAQ of the Rings – Mostly great information and some interesting speculation about the Rings of Power.
  • The Last Ringbearer – The very best fan fiction ever written, and possibly the only work of fan fiction with genuine literary merit.