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If Fingolfin came with approx. 5000 or so (which seems a reasonable number) and his host was greater than Feanor's, ''Italic text''and''Italic text''the majority of the Noldor came back to Middle-Earth.  How many would've been left in Valinor?  Perhaps a few thousand?  It is implied that the Noldor outnumbered the Vanyar, so there would then have to be less than approx. ten thousand Vanyar.   
If Fingolfin came with approx. 5000 or so (which seems a reasonable number) and his host was greater than Feanor's, and the majority of the Noldor came back to Middle-Earth.  How many would've been left in Valinor?  Perhaps a few thousand?  It is implied that the Noldor outnumbered the Vanyar, so there would then have to be less than approx. ten thousand Vanyar.   
Since it is stated rather clearly that Elves were not in the habit of having large numbers of children, (Feanor and his wife having seven children in six childbirths is a rare exception.) How would a few thousand Noldor left in Valinor and several thousand (maybe?) Vanyar multiply in only five-hundred years into "millions?"
Since it is stated rather clearly that Elves were not in the habit of having large numbers of children, (Feanor and his wife having seven children in six childbirths is a rare exception.) How would a few thousand Noldor left in Valinor and several thousand (maybe?) Vanyar multiply in only five-hundred years into "millions?"


In "The Silmarillion" it states that the Elves never knew the exact number of Maiar, however, millions seems far too large a number.  Would it not seem more realistic that there were some thousands of Maiar spirits in total?
In "The Silmarillion" it states that the Elves never knew the exact number of Maiar, however, millions seems far too large a number.  Would it not seem more realistic that there were some thousands of Maiar spirits in total?

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Question about numbers given in "war of the wrath"

Strengths: Morgoth--Hundreds of thousands or millions

           Valar--millions?

If Fingolfin came with approx. 5000 or so (which seems a reasonable number) and his host was greater than Feanor's, and the majority of the Noldor came back to Middle-Earth. How many would've been left in Valinor? Perhaps a few thousand? It is implied that the Noldor outnumbered the Vanyar, so there would then have to be less than approx. ten thousand Vanyar. Since it is stated rather clearly that Elves were not in the habit of having large numbers of children, (Feanor and his wife having seven children in six childbirths is a rare exception.) How would a few thousand Noldor left in Valinor and several thousand (maybe?) Vanyar multiply in only five-hundred years into "millions?"

In "The Silmarillion" it states that the Elves never knew the exact number of Maiar, however, millions seems far too large a number. Would it not seem more realistic that there were some thousands of Maiar spirits in total?