https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:The Shire - Revision history2024-03-29T10:30:04ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343770&oldid=prevLorenzoCB: /* Quote */2022-03-21T08:12:56Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Quote</span></span></p>
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</table>LorenzoCBhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343759&oldid=prevDour1234 at 05:30, 21 March 20222022-03-21T05:30:22Z<p></p>
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</table>Mordhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343725&oldid=prevDour1234 at 19:28, 20 March 20222022-03-20T19:28:49Z<p></p>
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</table>Dour1234https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343669&oldid=prevDour1234 at 11:37, 20 March 20222022-03-20T11:37:06Z<p></p>
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</table>Dour1234https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343668&oldid=prevDour1234 at 11:36, 20 March 20222022-03-20T11:36:35Z<p></p>
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</table>LorenzoCBhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=343665&oldid=prevDour1234 at 04:18, 20 March 20222022-03-20T04:18:03Z<p></p>
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</table>Dour1234https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=257389&oldid=prevSage: /* Structure */ new section2014-11-04T09:47:38Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Structure: </span> new section</span></p>
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</table>Sagehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:The_Shire&diff=234452&oldid=prevMith: Re-linked2013-10-05T08:59:02Z<p>Re-linked</p>
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