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Morgan: Agree
2010-10-17T16:42:33Z
<p>Agree</p>
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Mith: /* Drauglir */ new section
2010-10-17T15:14:32Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Drauglir: </span> new section</span></p>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">At the moment, I am inclined to think this is a load of rubbish which started off on Wikipedia and has since been copied by numerous other websites (including us). EOA makes [http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/d/draugluin.html no mention of "Drauglir"], whilst someone on Wikipedia is also suspicious of it as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle-earth_animals#Draugluin it has been tagged with "citation needed"]. </ins></div></td></tr>
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Ederchil: agree
2008-01-23T09:39:26Z
<p>agree</p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG<sup>2</sup>-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *<i>lugni</i> 'blue' > Q. <i>lúne</i>, N. [> Sindarin]) <i>lhûn</i>, but also Dor. <i>luin</i> 'pale', Dan. <i>lygn</i>. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article [[Draug]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG<sup>2</sup>-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *<i>lugni</i> 'blue' > Q. <i>lúne</i>, N. [> Sindarin]) <i>lhûn</i>, but also Dor. <i>luin</i> 'pale', Dan. <i>lygn</i>. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article [[Draug]].</div></td></tr>
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Tik at 08:11, 23 January 2008
2008-01-23T08:11:16Z
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>Blue wolf? As Harri Perälä noted in our KontuWiki, in [[The Lay of Leithian]] (HoME III) Draugluin was not told to be blue, but pale. Actually he/it was grey:<br />
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:the tail / of Draugluin the werewolf pale (l. 1488-9)<br />
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:an awful werewolf fierce and great:<br>pale Draugluin, the old grey lord<br>of wolves and beasts of blood abhorred<br>(l. 2711-3)<br />
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Cf. also l. 3401, and pp. 289-293<br />
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Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG<sup>2</sup>-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *<i>lugni</i> 'blue' > Q. <i>lúne</i>, N. [> Sindarin]) <i>lhûn</i>, but also Dor. <i>luin</i> 'pale', Dan. <i>lygn</i>. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article [[Draug]].</div>
Tik