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Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG<sup>2</sup>-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *<i>lugni</i> 'blue' > Q. <i>lúne</i>, N. [> Sindarin]) <i>lhûn</i>, but also Dor. <i>luin</i> 'pale', Dan. <i>lygn</i>. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article [[Draug]].
Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG<sup>2</sup>-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *<i>lugni</i> 'blue' > Q. <i>lúne</i>, N. [> Sindarin]) <i>lhûn</i>, but also Dor. <i>luin</i> 'pale', Dan. <i>lygn</i>. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article [[Draug]].
:I agree. The source for ''Blue Wolf'' is [[Ruth S. Noel]]. Her work is outdated and unauthoritative, and as such, incorrect in many cases. All refs to her work should be doublechecked. -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 04:39, 23 January 2008 (EST)

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Blue wolf? As Harri Perälä noted in our KontuWiki, in The Lay of Leithian (HoME III) Draugluin was not told to be blue, but pale. Actually he/it was grey:

the tail / of Draugluin the werewolf pale (l. 1488-9)
an awful werewolf fierce and great:
pale Draugluin, the old grey lord
of wolves and beasts of blood abhorred
(l. 2711-3)

Cf. also l. 3401, and pp. 289-293

Harri also paid attention to the Etymologies (s.v. LUG2-, HoME V, 370): the stem certainly gives *lugni 'blue' > Q. lúne, N. [> Sindarin]) lhûn, but also Dor. luin 'pale', Dan. lygn. So it seems more probable that when naming the Lord of the Werevolves Tolkien was thinking a 'pale wolf', naturally grey and not blue. --Tik 03:11, 23 January 2008 (EST) PS. 'Blue wolf' also in the article Draug.

I agree. The source for Blue Wolf is Ruth S. Noel. Her work is outdated and unauthoritative, and as such, incorrect in many cases. All refs to her work should be doublechecked. -- Ederchil 04:39, 23 January 2008 (EST)