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==History==
==History==
[[Kornoldorin]] ("Gnomish of [[Kôr]]" or "Old Noldorin") was the language of the [[Gnomes]] in [[Valinor]]. It was similar to [[Qenya]], the language of the [[Vanyar|Lindar]], but incorporated [[Solosimpin]] influence.
[[Kornoldorin]] ("Gnomish of [[Kôr]]" or "Old Noldorin") was the language of the [[Gnomes]] in [[Valinor]]. It was similar to [[Qenya]], the language of the [[Vanyar|Lindar]], but incorporated [[Solosimpi|Solosimpin]] influence.


When the Gnomes came to the [[Great Lands]] with [[Fëanor]], they intermingled with the [[Ilkorindi]], the [[Dark Elves]], and their languages, Kornoldorin and [[Ilkorin]] respectively, were likewise mingled. This was the origin of Noldorin.  
When the Noldoli came to the [[Great Lands]] with [[Fëanor]], they intermingled with the [[Ilkorindi]], the [[Dark Elves]], and their languages, Kornoldorin and [[Ilkorin]] respectively, were likewise mingled. This was the origin of Noldorin.  


Noldorin was rich in various dialects, including those of [[Mithrim]], [[Gondolin]], [[Nargothrond]], and [[Himring]]<ref>{{LR|Lhammas}} p.177</ref><ref>{{PE|14}} p.61-62</ref> and the [[Fëanorian dialect]]  of [[East Beleriand]] spoken by the folk of the [[Sons of Fëanor]].<ref>{{PE|18}}, pp. 26-7, 80</ref>
Noldorin was rich in various dialects, including those of [[Mithrim]], [[Gondolin]], [[Nargothrond]], and [[Himring]]<ref>{{LR|Lhammas}} p.177</ref><ref>{{PE|14}} p.61-62</ref> and the [[Fëanorian dialect]]  of [[East Beleriand]] spoken by the folk of the [[Sons of Fëanor]].<ref>{{PE|18}}, pp. 26-7, 80</ref>
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Tolkien consulted the Noldorin language of the ''Etymologies'' extensively in his work on Sindarin, adapting old words to fit his new version of the language. This same method of adapting Noldorin words to create Sindarin equivalents is used by modern students of Elvish. The resulting vocabulary is typically referred to as "[[Neo-Sindarin]]" to distinguish it from attested Sindarin.  
Tolkien consulted the Noldorin language of the ''Etymologies'' extensively in his work on Sindarin, adapting old words to fit his new version of the language. This same method of adapting Noldorin words to create Sindarin equivalents is used by modern students of Elvish. The resulting vocabulary is typically referred to as "[[Neo-Sindarin]]" to distinguish it from attested Sindarin.  


===An example of Noldorin to Sindarin Adaption===
===An example of Noldorin to Sindarin adaptation===
The Old Noldorin initial ''l-/r-'' became ''lh-/rh-'' in Noldorin. In Sindarin, however, they remain the same. The Old Noldorin diphthong ''ai'' becomes ''oe'' in Noldorin, but ''ae'' in Sindarin.  
The Old Noldorin initial ''l-/r-'' became ''lh-/rh-'' in Noldorin. In Sindarin, however, they remain the same. The Old Noldorin diphthong ''ai'' becomes ''oe'' in Noldorin, but ''ae'' in Sindarin.  


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==See also==
==See also==
*[[Kornoldorin]]
*[[Kornoldorin]]
*[[Salmar]] (also named Noldorin in early manuscripts)
*[[Salmar]], also named ''Noldorin'' in early manuscripts
*[[Gnomish]], also called [[Goldogrin]] or [[I-Lam na-Ngoldathon]]
*[[Gnomish]], also called ''Goldogrin'', precursor of Noldorin


==External links==
==External links==
*[http://www.phy.duke.edu/~trenk/elvish/#grammar_noldorin Three articles about Noldorin] by [[Thorsten Renk]].
*[http://www.science-and-fiction.org/elvish/index.html#grammar_noldorin Three articles about Noldorin] by [[Thorsten Renk]]
*[http://glaemscrafu.jrrvf.com/english/noldorin.html Texts and sound examples] at [[Glǽmscrafu]]
*[http://glaemscrafu.jrrvf.com/english/noldorin.html Texts and sound examples] at [[Glǽmscrafu]]
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This article is about the earlier version of Sindarin. For the dialect of Quenya spoken by the Noldor in Middle-earth, see Exilic Quenya.

Noldorin is an Elvish dialect from an earlier version of the legendarium, a precursor to Sindarin.

History[edit | edit source]

Kornoldorin ("Gnomish of Kôr" or "Old Noldorin") was the language of the Gnomes in Valinor. It was similar to Qenya, the language of the Lindar, but incorporated Solosimpin influence.

When the Noldoli came to the Great Lands with Fëanor, they intermingled with the Ilkorindi, the Dark Elves, and their languages, Kornoldorin and Ilkorin respectively, were likewise mingled. This was the origin of Noldorin.

Noldorin was rich in various dialects, including those of Mithrim, Gondolin, Nargothrond, and Himring[1][2] and the Fëanorian dialect of East Beleriand spoken by the folk of the Sons of Fëanor.[3]

External history[edit | edit source]

A Celtic-sounding language spoken by the Gnomes/Noldoli existed since the beginning of Tolkien's mythology. In its first stages it was called Gnomish and resembled the later Noldorin/Sindarin despite noticeable differences.

The evolution of the language continued over several years. During the 1930s it was known as Noldorin, and gained a greater similarity to the Sindarin of The Lord of the Rings. This version of the language appears in the Etymologies.

Noldorin was the existing version of the language during the writing of The Lord of the Rings. The Elvish phrases in The Lord of the Rings, now known as Sindarin, were "Noldorin" in Tolkien's mind throughout the writing process. It was only while compiling the Appendices that he decided to rewrite the language's back-story and change the name to Sindarin.

Tolkien consulted the Noldorin language of the Etymologies extensively in his work on Sindarin, adapting old words to fit his new version of the language. This same method of adapting Noldorin words to create Sindarin equivalents is used by modern students of Elvish. The resulting vocabulary is typically referred to as "Neo-Sindarin" to distinguish it from attested Sindarin.

An example of Noldorin to Sindarin adaptation[edit | edit source]

The Old Noldorin initial l-/r- became lh-/rh- in Noldorin. In Sindarin, however, they remain the same. The Old Noldorin diphthong ai becomes oe in Noldorin, but ae in Sindarin.

According to the Etymologies, the Old Noldorin word raika evolved into Noldorin rhoeg. A modern student of Elvish would update this word to the Neo-Sindarin *raeg.

See also[edit | edit source]

External links[edit | edit source]

References

  1. J.R.R. Tolkien, Christopher Tolkien (ed.), The Lost Road and Other Writings, "Part Two: Valinor and Middle-earth before The Lord of the Rings, V. The Lhammas" p.177
  2. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Early Qenya and The Valmaric Script", in Parma Eldalamberon XIV (edited by Carl F. Hostetter, Christopher Gilson, Arden R. Smith, Patrick H. Wynne, and Bill Welden) p.61-62
  3. J.R.R. Tolkien, "Tengwesta Qenderinwa and Pre-Fëanorian Alphabets Part 2", in Parma Eldalamberon XVIII (edited by Christopher Gilson, Arden R. Smith, and Patrick H. Wynne), pp. 26-7, 80
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