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[edit] Welcome!

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-- Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 05:41, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

[edit] Moving pages

Moving pages is not the wiki's priority, and not a work for newcomers. Pages must never been moved via copypasting! You ignored what I told you about using talkpages before moving anything, and obviously you still are unawared of the Tolkien Gateway:Naming policy, so I'm blocking you again. --LorenzoCB 20:04, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Moving talkpages is even less important, and I told you don't do it via copypasting; that way we loose the history of edits. Just👏don't👏move👏anything👏please! --LorenzoCB 16:03, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

[edit] Calm down

You made almost 20 edits in one day just in the Lungorthin article. Please, planify your edits and check the preview before saving. You are constantly correcting yourself and making useless microedits like removing spaces. Editing for the sake of editing does not help the wiki. My recommendation: choose a matter of your interest, study the sources, think how to apply it to the wiki and then edit with calm if it is necessary. Also, the correction on Lurgonthin being a Maia was a good reason for you to ask in the talkpage, but you simply reject it. I'm blocking you just couple of weeks, let's see if you can moderate yourself already. --LorenzoCB 22:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

[edit] Nameless Things

The index of The Lord of the Rings was not written by J.R.R. Tolkien. You can learn some information about the index by reading the Note on the text and the introductory text of the Index of the 50th anniversary edition of The Lord of the Rings, which even explicitly says "Compiled by Christina Scull & Wayne G. Hammond". They only say that they also have "referred to the index, that Tolkien himself began to prepare during 1954, but which he left unfinished after dealing only with place names". Christina Scull & Wayne G. Hammond do not quote an entry for "Nameless Things" from J.R.R. Tolkien's unfinished index that was prepared by Nancy Smith for him and reviewed by him Unfinished index. The entry in the index in the 50th anniversary edition does not say "Nameless" (the term that you used in your edit), but says "Nameless, gnawing things" followed by the page number, which is the page where Gandalf calls them "nameless things". Since the nameless things are not a placename, it is probable that they were not included in the unfinished index that was reviewed by J.R.R. Tolkien. Also, generally reliable sources, such as Michael Martinez's and Mark Fisher's The Encyclopedia of Arda call them "Nameless Things". I suggest that you read the Templates to familiarize yourself with them before you edit and that you avoid breaking up your edits into microedits. The Template:RK contains an entry for the index and entries for subsections of the index. Since the index was not written by J.R.R. Tolkien it is not a reliable source. For example the entry in the index of the 50th anniversary edition of an e-book versions for Cirith Ungol reads "Cirith Ungol [Pass of the Spider] (High Pass, Nameless Pass)". If one reads the descriptions of the locations of the passes in the chapters it becomes clear that the Nameless Pass in the chapter The Stairs of Cirith Ungol is the Morgul Pass that is mentioned in The Black Gate Opens and in The Tower of Cirith Ungol. You create unnecessary work for other users to review your edits and to correct your edits if you do not support your edits with reliable sources and if you break up your edits into microedits. Lorenzo already told you on this talk page how to do thorough edits. --Akhorahil 07:57, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

[edit] Tevildo

Several sections on the Tevildo page that you edited or created do not contain any reference. You have already been told to use references in your edits. You risk that your edits will be reverted and that you will be blocked again if you do not adhere to Tolkien Gateways's policies. --Akhorahil 08:39, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

I will get to adding the references right now.
Edit, just finished adding page references to the article, please name the other pages I need to do. Regardless, I am going to be adding page references to the Leaf by Niggle article now. I regret saying this as I just remembered I do not have that version with the correct pagination. However, I will still put the reference to the book, though. Edit again, what reference shortcut template do I use for specifically “Leaf by Niggle”? It is not mentioned on the references help page. --Dour1234, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't know what's the standard edition of "Leaf by Niggle" that should be used for the wiki. Adding a simple reference without pagination will always better than no reference at all. In the case of Tevildo, I'll have to change all your work, as the pagination does not match the one used by Christopher Tolkien or the wiki. --LorenzoCB 10:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)