Talk:Regent of Gondor

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Latest comment: 11 July 2017 by Corsair Caruso in topic Renaming?

Renaming?[edit source]

This page is titled "Regent of Gondor," but there is at least one other regency mentioned in Numenorean cultural history besides Minalcar Romendacil II of Gondor: Hallatan of Hyarastorni is mentioned as having served as Regent of Númenor while Tar-Aldarion traveled to Middle-earth. Should the title of this page be changed to reflect the expanded topic? Possibly just "Regent." Corsair Caruso 04:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also found mention of Ancalimë serving as Regent. Corsair Caruso 04:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think that the references to Aldarion and Ancalimë should be taken out of the article and moved into a new "Regent of Númenor" article. I'm less keen on "Regent" because I sort of think it should be a generic article about the concept of a regent (such as Wikipedia's article). Although obviously this is a difficult one. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You know what, I'll buy that. We don't, after all, have an article titled King just because the office was used by multiple cultures. I do wish there was some way we could indicate the continuity of the office as a Númenorean fixture, persisting through its daughter cultures, but it isn't strictly necessary. A sentence relating the Númenórean office to the Gondorian office, perhaps. Corsair Caruso 02:44, 17 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is the "See also" section which would be a way of linking to it. Certainly the Gondorian one should reference the Númenórean one at the start of the body of the text. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 07:40, 17 July 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This still needs resolving: either splitting the article or renaming it. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:14, 4 September 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So, currently, if you just enter in the word "Queen" into the search bar, it takes you to a disambiguation page with about three options: a link to the article "Queen of Gondor," a link to the article "Queen of Numenor," followed by a line giving "Queen of the Valar" as a description of the Valier (which links to that article). Should we do something similar with the term "Regent," and set up a disambiguation page that takes you either to "Regent of Numenor," or "Regent of Gondor"? Corsair Caruso 03:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I went ahead and created that disambiguation page, but now I'm indecisive as to whether or not Regent of Gondor can effectively be split up into two separate articles in a way that makes them more effective than the one currently. So, rather than creating two poor articles and changing a bunch of links before a consensus had been reached, I decided just to leave the disambiguation page Regent up, and if someone wants to look and have a go at splitting off a Regent of Númenor page from the current Regent of Gondor, they can. I'd also be up for doing it myself with some guidance, but I'm sure there are people better suited. If it just isn't a good idea, then the disambiguation page can just be deleted. Corsair Caruso 03:38, 11 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]