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{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva molienya ar tératuvas.|[[Aule]] in "[[Of Aule and Yavanna]]"}}
{{quote|Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!|[[Aulë]] in ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', "[[Of Aulë and Yavanna]]"}}
Tolkien Gateway already helped me a lot, so I want to help making it bigger and wholesome. I'm from Spain, but I have most of the bibliography both in Spanish and English, and I enjoy checking both languages. My English is still on work, so I appreciate all the corrections, specially with the long texts.
I'm a fan from Spain, a proud member of the [[Spanish Tolkien Society]], active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.


As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's spirituality and theology. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of [[User:LorenzoCB#Riener Quentandil|Riener Quentandil]], but currently I'm working on a personal edition of the ''Quenta Silmarillion''.
Among my favourite characters are [[Aulë]], [[Varda]], [[Finrod Felagund]], [[Sador]] and [[Galadriel]].


Occasionally I edit videos, like the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKsGOtoME9A&t Namarië]. I also host an unfinished [http://tolkiencristiano.wordpress.com/ web about Tolkien's Christianism], in Spanish.
As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's spirituality and theology. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of '''[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]''', but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come.


==To do==
==Articles I feel proud of==
More interested in editing extratextual stuff.
*[[Dagor Dagorath]]
* Revise all [[Index:Poems by J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien's poems]]: unify style and include poems in empty articles
* All versions of the ''[[Ainulindalë (disambiguation)|Ainulindalë]]''
* <s>Clean [[:Category:Quenya words]]</s>
*[[Gondolin]]
* Clean [[:Category:Disputed canonicity]]
* All articles of the [[Twelve Houses of the Gondothlim]] and their lords, specially [[Turgon]] and [[Glorfindel]]
* <s>Complete ''[[The Children of Húrin]]'' summary</s>
*[[Christianity]]
* Complete some [[HoMe]] analysis and summaries
*[[Index:Conflicts]]
**''[[The Lays of Beleriand]]''
*[[Orcs/Origin]]
**''[[The Shaping of Middle-earth]]''
**''[[The Lost Road and Other Writings]]''
* Make analysis of ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' chapters
* Make full articles for
**<s>[[Dagor Dagorath]]</s>
**[[Arda Unmarred]]
**[[Arda Healed]]
**[[Catholicism in Tolkien]]
**[[Virgin Mary]]


*<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
:<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Sandbox|Personal Sandbox]]'''</big>
*<big>'''[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]'''</big>
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Ingolonde Project|Ingolonde Project]]
*[[User:LorenzoCB/Quentandil‎|Riener Quentandil]]
 
==Headcanons==
*[[Tom Bombadil]] is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of ''TLOR'' to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
*[[Orcs]] were [[Orcs/Origin#Souless animals|talking beasts without soul]]. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper [[Incarnates]] like the [[Ents]], but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
*The [[Ancalagon#Other versions of the legendarium|prophecy]] of [[Andreth]] is refered to the [[War of Wrath]] and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that [[Túrin]] was temporarily brought back from [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]], just like [[Beren]]. Then Túrin, still in Valinor, jumped into [[Vingilot]], and travelled with his nephew [[Eärendil]] to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed [[Ancalagon]], accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest [[dragon]] in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
*The [[Valar]] were informed about [[Eru]]'s [[Old Hope|Incarnation]], so the first [[Christmas]] feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
*We are living in the Sixth [[Age]], which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Seventh Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever.
*Everything is [[canon]]. The [[Global Theory]] is true.
*The [[Eldar]] had [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVnksxk5gyE Baroque dances].


==Favourite Tolkien related works==
==Favourite Tolkien related works==
* ''[[The Fall of Gondolin (chapter)|The Fall of Gondolin]]'' (the Lost Tale)
*Tolkien's texts
* ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''
**''[[Valaquenta]]''
* ''[[A Description of the Island of Númenor]]''
** ''[[The Fall of Gondolin (chapter)|The Fall of Gondolin]]'' (the Lost Tale)
* ''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
** ''[[Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth]]''
* ''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
** ''[[A Description of the Island of Númenor]]''
* ''[[In Elven Lands]]'', by [[The Fellowship (band)]]
*On Tolkien
* ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
** ''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
* ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
** ''[[Splintered Light]]'' by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
 
** ''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
==Riener Quentandil==
*Tolkien's influences
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** ''Aeneid'', by Virgil
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** ''[[Kalevala]]'', by [[Elias Lönnrot]]
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*Artists
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**[[The Fellowship (band)]]
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** [http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX4WZErPVapopqbisADEV_Q Adele McAllister]
| othernames=''Quentandil'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Amilessë|mn]]), ''Lórenotso'' ([[Quenya|Q]], [[Kilmessë|sn]])
** [http://thangorodrimsynth.bandcamp.com/music Thangorodrim]
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{{quote|As I am but an orphan dragged by fate, a scribe whose only imprint in the court is the ink of others' words.|''Letter to Orodreth''}}
'''Riener''' was born under the [[Two Trees of Valinor|Light of the Trees]] in a vassal family of the [[House of Finarfin]]. Because of his early attraction to tengwar and stories, his mother gave him the [[mother-name|name]] '''Quentandil''', "Lover of Tales". He also choosed the [[Kilmessë|personal name]] of '''Lórenotso''', which weirdly means "Seven times dream"; as he explained, it came from a recurring dream he had seven times.
 
===Life in Middle-earth===
He was just a teenager when the [[Fall of the Noldor]] happened. His mother abandoned him and his father when [[Finarfin]] refused to follow the Noldor into exile, and his father died in the march by the [[Helcaraxe]], so he arrived in [[Beleriand]] completely orphaned. [[Finrod Felagund]] took him under his protection, granting him a position as a scribe in his court. During the stay of his lord in [[Doriath]], he had problems refusing to abandone [[Quenya]] speech in public. He lived in [[Nargothrond]] until the [[Union of Maedhros]], because he rejected [[Orodreth]] as king, whom he accused of being an inept ruler who lost the best chance to avenge the death of King Finrod. Although his disdain for the [[House of Feanor]] was known, he promoted the Union with numerous writings, of which we preserve the ''Letter to Orodreth''. He survived the [[Nirnaeth Arnoediad|Nirnaeth Arnœdiad]], on which he composed a poem. After wandering around Beleriand for many decades, he joined the people of [[Círdan]].
 
He did not return to [[Valinor]] once the [[War of Wrath]] ended, as he was too attached to Middle-earth; but seven hundred years later he embarked to the West. However, he stopped in [[Númenor]], where he lived for several centuries as a teacher, until his stay on the island put in danger many friends. As he escaped quickly, he could not take many books with him and he barely saved anything he had written on the island.
 
===Life in Valinor===
As he delayed his return in Númenor without authorization, he had to wait in [[Tol Eressea]] for a whole [[age]], until the end of the [[Third Age|Third]]. He settled in a cabin near [[Kôr]], where he had time to read and put his writings in order. After finding the [[Golden Book]] and various manuscripts of the ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'', he realized that with the pass of time the different versions had changed or omitted information. Then he decided to create his own edition, in which he would compile as much information as possible from all the sources, giving it coherence and expanding it with some details of his own knowledge. It took him a long time to get the necessary manuscripts, millennia in some case, as he was confined in Tol Eressea, so when he was able to return to [[Eldamar]] his edition was still in process.


In Valinor he built his home in a retired cave, next to the [[Shadowmere]], but he also used to live long periods in [[Tirion]], rendering his services to Finrod, and he liked to travel through the woods and borders of [[Aman]]. As a result of these trips and his bibliographical research, he wrote ''Description of Aman''. He witnessed the Erunostale festivities, and he was so impressed that he decided to write a summary of those sacred months, researching about the actions of the Valar. Two years later he was called by Finrod to be one of the official scribes in the debates on the Nativity of Eru. Riener wrote everything that was said there and gave it shape in the ''Istimon Artaquetta'', which was his last work. Since the announcement made in the Erunostale, he showed great joy and was very active, but inside him grew the longing for the East, and he frequented the shores of Eldamar. In the year 26 of the Sixth Age he commissioned the construction of a ship for himself, and as soon as it was completed two years later, he told his few friends that he was leaving to Middle-earth, but he gave no explanation. Although his intention surprised many and there were those who wanted to denounce him to the Valar, Riener leaved discreetly and without problems, and he was not seen again in Aman except in [[Halls of Mandos|Mandos]].
==My library==
===By the Tolkiens===
*''[[The Hobbit]]'' / ''El Hobbit''
*''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' / ''El Señor de los Anillos''
*''[[Tree and Leaf|Árbol y Hoja]]''
*''[[The Tolkien Reader]]''
*''[[Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl and Sir Orfeo]]''
*''[[The Silmarillion]]'' / ''El Silmarillion''
*''[[Unfinished Tales]]'' / ''Cuentos Inconclusos''
*''[[Finn and Hengest]]''
*''[[The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays|Los Monstruos y los Críticos y otros ensayos]]''
*''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'', volumes I-V and IX-XII / ''La Historia de la Tierra Media'', volumes 1-9
*''The History of Middle-earth'', volumes VI-VIII / ''[[The History of The Lord of the Rings|La Historia de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', volumes 1-4
*''[[The History of Middle-earth Index]]''
*''[[Tales from the Perilous Realm|Cuentos desde el Reino Peligroso]]''
*''[[The Children of Húrin|Los Hijos de Húrin]]''
*''[[The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrún|La Leyenda de Sigurd y Gudrún]]''
*''[[The Fall of Arthur|La Caída de Arturo]]''
*''[[Beowulf: A Translation and Commentary|Beowulf: Traducción y comentario]]''
*''[[Beren and Lúthien|Beren y Lúthien]]''
*''[[The Fall of Gondolin|La Caída de Gondolin]]''


===Heraldry===
===By other authors===
His personal emblem is based on Finrod's, his lord: that's why it keeps the green background even though the heraldic rules do not allow to put an element on a background of the same color. The laurel comes from his [[father-name]] ''Riener'', which means "Male with vegetal crown". We do not know why he was given that name. The tengwa [[rómen]] is clearly from the first letter of the name, but we can also deduce two more details: his love for the letters and his attraction for the [[Middle-earth|East]], to which his destiny was linked since his childhood.
*''The Collected [[Vinyar Tengwar]]'', volumes 1-5 (issues 1-50), edited by [[Carl F. Hostetter]]
*''[[Parma Eldalamberon]]'', issues [[Parma Eldalamberon 11|11]], [[Parma Eldalamberon 14|14]], [[Parma Eldalamberon 16|16]] and [[Parma Eldalamberon 17|17]], edited by [[Christopher Gilson]]
*''[[A Secret Vice (book)|A Secret Vice]]'', edited by [[Dimitra Fimi]] and [[Andrew Higgins]]
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: Artist and Illustrator|J.R.R. Tolkien: Artista e Ilustrador]]'', by [[Wayne G. Hammond]] and [[Christina Scull]]
*''[[The Art of The Lord of the Rings|El Arte de El Señor de los Anillos]]'', by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''[[The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien]]'' / ''Cartas de J.R.R. Tolkien'', edited by [[Humphrey Carpenter]]


===Known Works===
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography]]'' / ''J.R.R. Tolkien: Una biografía'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''Letter to Orodreth'' (''Tenca Artarestonna'')
*''[[The Inklings (book)|The Inklings]]'', by Humphrey Carpenter
*''Mourning for the Fourth Battle'' (''Yaime rá Ohta Cantea'')
*''[[The J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide]]'' (revised edition), by Wayne G. Hammond and Christina Scull
*''Mourning above the Fifth Battle'' (''Yaime or Ohtas Lempea'')
*''[[Tolkien and the Great War|Tolkien y la Gran Guerra]]'', by [[John Garth]]
*''Elegy for Sunken Beleriand'' (''Noilire rá Ingolonden'')
*''[[The Road to Middle-earth|El Camino a la Tierra Media]]'', by [[Tom Shippey]]
*''The Slaying of the Dragon'' (''Angonahtale''), a dramatized version about [[the Death of Glaurung]]
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien: Author of the Century]]'', by Tom Shippey
*''Kôr Doze'' (''Koroloro'')
*''[[Tolkien: Man and Myth|Tolkien: Hombre y Mito]]'', by [[Joseph Pearce]]
*A dramatized version of the ''[[Noldolante]]''
*''[[Tolkien: A Celebration|Tolkien, Señor de la Tierra Media]]'', edited by Joseph Pearce
*A personal reedition of the ''[[Quenta Silmarillion]]'' (''Entécina Quenta Silmarillion'')
*''[[Arda Reconstructed: The Creation of the Published Silmarillion]]'', by [[Douglas C. Kane]]
*''Description of Aman'' (''Amanquenta'')
*''[[Tolkien and The Silmarillion]]'', by [[Clyde S. Kilby]]
*''Christmas in Valinor'' (''Erunostale Valinóresse'')
*''[[The Keys of Middle-earth]]'', by Stuart Lee and Elizabeth Solopova
*''Debate of the Wise'' (''Artaquetta Istimon: Manen Eru ná nóna ve fire?'')
*''[[Splintered Light]]'', by [[Verlyn Flieger]]
*''[[Interrupted Music: The Making of Tolkien's Mythology]]'', by Verlyn Flieger
*''[[The Flame Imperishable: Tolkien, St. Thomas, and the Metaphysics of Faerie]]'', by Jonathan S. McIntosh
*''[[The Gospel According to Tolkien]]'', by [[Ralph C. Wood]]
*''[[J.R.R. Tolkien's Sanctifying Myth]]'', by [[Bradley J. Birzer]]
*''[[The Power of the Ring|El Poder del Anillo]]'', by [[Stratford Caldecott]]
*''[[Myth, Allegory and Gospel]]'', edited by John Warwick Montgomery
*''[[Tolkien's Sacramental Vision: Discerning the Holy in Middle Earth]]'', by Craig Bernthal
*''[[Tolkien's Theology of Beauty]]'', by Lisa Coutras
*''Un Camino Inesperado'', by Diego Blanco
*''An Encouraging Thought: The Christian Worldview in the Writings of J.R.R. Tolkien'', by Donald Williams
*''J.R.R. Tolkien. Cuentos de Hadas'', by José Miguel Odero
*''La Lengua de los Elfos'', by Luis González Baixauli
*''Atanquesta. A NeoQuenya Primer'', by Tamas Ferencz
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Lorenzo
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"Nai Eru manyuva tanwenya ar tératuvas!"
Aulë in Quenta Silmarillion, "Of Aulë and Yavanna"

I'm a fan from Spain, a proud member of the Spanish Tolkien Society, active in the Languages Commission. My English is still on work, so I appreciate any correction, specially with the long texts.

Among my favourite characters are Aulë, Varda, Finrod Felagund, Sador and Galadriel.

As a converted Catholic, I like to study about Tolkien's spirituality and theology. I also love Quenya and when I have time I "translate" the works of Riener Quentandil, but currently I'm working on too many projects. Tolkien taught me I should finish things, but I can't help beginning things when new ideas come.

Articles I feel proud of

Personal Sandbox

Headcanons

  • Tom Bombadil is an extraliterary character from the tales Tolkien told to his children. Tolkien refused to remove him from his revision of TLOR to remember us that we are reading a fairy-tale. That's why both readers and Middle-earth characters do not know where he comes from.
  • Orcs were talking beasts without soul. Therefore they were good creatures in their beginning, as they were directly created by Ilúvatar, but later their wills were corrupted by Morgoth. Therefore they were inclined to evil forever, unless Eru himself came to free them. If so, they could have become proper Incarnates like the Ents, but they were exterminated before that happened or at least they could become civilized.
  • The prophecy of Andreth is refered to the War of Wrath and was true: in his last conception, Tolkien intended that Túrin was temporarily brought back from Mandos, just like Beren. Then Túrin, still in Valinor, jumped into Vingilot, and travelled with his nephew Eärendil to Middle-earth. In the flying boat, Túrin slayed Ancalagon, accomplishing the decisive victory against Morgoth and thus having the last word in his family's curse. Then he was finally free and leaved the Circles of the World. I was never convinced that a boat could destroy the biggest dragon in the world, but if there is a dragonslayer in it, now that's epic.
  • The Valar were informed about Eru's Incarnation, so the first Christmas feast in the world was hold in Valinor.
  • We are living in the Sixth Age, which began with the Death and Resurrection of Our Lord Jesus Christ. The last and Seventh Age will begin when He returns and it will last forever.
  • Everything is canon. The Global Theory is true.
  • The Eldar had Baroque dances.

Favourite Tolkien related works

My library

By the Tolkiens

By other authors