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'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]'' until [[2001]]. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.
'''Lisa Star''' edited the journal ''[[Tyalië Tyelelliéva]]''. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.


As of [[2008]] Star seemed to have withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities|Geocities]] going offline.
Star had criticised the "Elfconners" ([[Arden Smith]], [[Carl Hostetter]], [[Patrick Wynne]], [[Christopher Gilson]]) for their publishing methods. On [[28 October]] [[1996]] she posted in [[Tolklang]] her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.<ref>{{webcite|author=Lisa Star|articleurl=http://tolk:[email protected]/messages/Vol20/20.89|articlename=Failure of Elfconners|dated=28 October, 1996|website=The Tolkien Language List}}</ref> She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".<ref>{{webcite|author=Lisa Star|articleurl=http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/unpub.html|articlename=A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts|dated=August 2002|website=Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva}}</ref>


The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise,<ref>"''Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in [[The Peoples of Middle-earth|PM]] p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all.''" ([[Andreas Moehn]][http://lalaith.vpsurf.de/Tolkien/How_to_speak_Rohirric.html])</ref> such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by [[Tolkien]].<ref>{{webcite|author=[[Patrick Wynne]] (as Pa2trick)|articleurl=http://cavscrip.wordpress.com/category/the-baleful-eye/sophistry/starism/|articlename=Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …|dated=February 22, 2006|website=Caveat Scriptor}}</ref>
As of [[2008]] Star apparently has withdrawn from the [[Tolkien fandom|Tolkien scene]] and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.<ref>Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elfling/message/34824 Message 34824], ''[[Elfling]]''</ref> Her official website received a final update in March [[2009]] before eventually disappearing because of [[Wikipedia:Geocities|Geocities]] shutting down.<ref>[http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/9902/ Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site]</ref>
==Bibliography==
===Articles===
*[[1992]]: [[Vinyar Tengwar 21|''Vinyar Tengwar'' 21]]
**"Quettare Kalyaina Eldalamberon: Illuminated Quenya Word-list"
*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 1|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 1]]
**"Plural in Quenya"
**"Danian Charm"
**"Double-Line Tengwar Pen Initials"
*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 2|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 2]]
**"Quenya Verb Suffixes: Transitive and Causative"
**"Ubi Quent?"
**"Danian Charm"
*[[1994]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 3|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 3]]
**"Quenya Mass Nouns and the Partitive Genitive"
**"Gnomic Verses Project" (with Andy Mariani)
*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 4|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 4]]
**"Cup and Ring Map"
**"Dwarvish Wordlist"
**"Runes of Erebor"
*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 5|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 5]]
**"Hot News from the Ice Age"
**"Glammarye: A Key"
**"Armenian Bole Technique"
**"Counting Flowers"
*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 6|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 6]]
**"Ent Language"
**"Hither, Thither and Yon"
**"Glammarye: Tolkien and the Tree-Kings"
**"Lege Artis"
**"Among the Trees"
*[[1995]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 7|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 7]]
**"Scroll of the Kings of Numenor"
**"The Ever-Horned One"
*[[1996]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 9|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 9]]
**"Inspired by Art: William Morris"
*[[1998]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 12|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 12]]
**"List of Versions of Namaria"
**"Tempest in a Thimble"
*[[1998]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 13|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 13]]
**"Analysis of Doors of Moria Tengwar"
*[[2000]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 14|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 14]]
**"Agricultural Methods in Hobbiton"
**"'She' and the Ruins of Kor"
*[[2000]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 15|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 15]]
**"Tolkien Collection at Marquette (Part 1)"
*[[2001]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 16|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 16]]
**"Tolkien Collection at Marquette (Part 2)"
*[[2001]]: [[Tyalië Tyelelliéva 17|''Tyalië Tyelelliéva'' 17]]
**"Sôval Phâre Introduction, Grammar, and Tengwar"
**"Languages of Rohan and Dale"
**"The Tolkien Collection at Marquette, Part 4"
{{References}}
{{References}}



Revision as of 16:04, 25 September 2020

Lisa Star edited the journal Tyalië Tyelelliéva until 2001. She also used to moderate the Elvish Linguistics mailing list.

Star had criticised the "Elfconners" (Arden Smith, Carl Hostetter, Patrick Wynne, Christopher Gilson) for their publishing methods. On 28 October 1996 she posted in Tolklang her objections and requested a rapid publication of the original material.[1] She would later mention in her website, "There is no love lost between Carl Hostetter and me".[2]

The information she provided has sometimes been criticised as inaccurate or imprecise,[3] such as the reference to the supposed language "Mørk" by Tolkien.[4]

As of 2008 Star apparently has withdrawn from the Tolkien scene and nobody seemed to be able to contact her.[5] Her official website received a final update in March 2009 before eventually disappearing because of Geocities shutting down.[6]

Bibliography

Articles

References

  1. Lisa Star, "Failure of Elfconners" dated 28 October 1996, The Tolkien Language List (accessed 29 March 2024)
  2. Lisa Star, "A List of Tolkien's Unpublished and Slightly Published Manuscripts" dated 1 August 2002, Welcome to Tyalie Tyelellieva (accessed 29 March 2024)
  3. "Unfortunately, Lisa's linguistic informations often are very imprecise. P. e. she refers to a supposed usage of „Rohirian“ in PM p. 55 that does not exist; indeed the word does not occur anywhere in that book at all." (Andreas Moehn[1])
  4. Patrick Wynne (as Pa2trick), "Mørk calling Orsøn, come in Orsøn …" dated 22 February 2006, Caveat Scriptor (accessed 29 March 2024)
  5. Matthew "Tyrhael" Dinse, Message 34824, Elfling
  6. Archive of the final snapshot of her Geocities site