https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&feed=atom&action=historyEldacar (King of Gondor) - Revision history2024-03-29T09:48:13ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&diff=380623&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* Etymology */ Added that he is called Vinitharius (in addition to the Venetharius mentioned by Arden R. Smith) in the latin original of Jordanes History of the Goth;Tolkien seems to have used the English forms of the Gothic names in Mierow's translation of Jordanes History of the Goths for discarded Hobbit names instead of the latin forms of the Gothic names which are used by Jordanes in the latin original2023-09-21T16:27:24Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> Added that he is called Vinitharius (in addition to the Venetharius mentioned by Arden R. Smith) in the latin original of Jordanes History of the Goth;Tolkien seems to have used the English forms of the Gothic names in Mierow's translation of Jordanes History of the Goths for discarded Hobbit names instead of the latin forms of the Gothic names which are used by Jordanes in the latin original</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Valacar, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil,<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II, p. 260</ref> which means "East-victor".<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Tarostar, p. 1044</ref> [[Arden R. Smith]] suggests that it is a modified form of the original reconstructed [[Gothic]] name ''*Winiþa-harjis'', which means "one who battles the Wends". The [[Wikipedia:Wends|Wends]] or ''Winedas'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. He further suggests that the original name that was fictitiously translated by Tolkien as ''Vinitharya'' referred to [[Easterlings]] instead of Wends. The historical bearer of this name, who was called ''Venetharius'' by [[Wikipedia:Jordanes|Jordanes]], an Eastern Roman writer from the sixth century who is believed to be of Gothic descent<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, was a king of the Ostrogoths of the fourth century and was the grandfather of Theodoric the Great</del>.<ref>[[Arden R. Smith]], Tolkienian Gothic, in [[Wayne G. Hammond]] & [[Christina Scull]], [[The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004]]: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269</ref> [[Jim Allan]] suggests that the name consists of ''vinid'' (a reference to the ''Vinidi'', the Wends) and ''harya'' derived from ''hari'' ("army"), which could be rendered "man-at-arms" and points out that Jordanes mentioned ''Vinitharius'' as the name of an ancient king of the Ostrogoths.<ref>{{HM|IE}}, p. 190</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Valacar, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil,<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II, p. 260</ref> which means "East-victor".<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Tarostar, p. 1044</ref> [[Arden R. Smith]] suggests that it is a modified form of the original reconstructed [[Gothic]] name ''*Winiþa-harjis'', which means "one who battles the Wends". The [[Wikipedia:Wends|Wends]] or ''Winedas'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. He further suggests that the original name that was fictitiously translated by Tolkien as ''Vinitharya'' referred to [[Easterlings]] instead of Wends. The historical bearer of this name <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">was a king of the Ostrogoths of the fourth century and was the great-grandfather of Theodoric the Great</ins>, who was called <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''Vinitharius'' or </ins>''Venetharius'' by [[Wikipedia:Jordanes|Jordanes]],<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>{{webcite|website=The Latin Library|author=Jordanes|articlename=Iordanis De Origine Actibusque Getarum|articleurl=http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/iordanes1.html}}, XIV.79 and XLVIII.246 and XLVII.248</ref> </ins>an Eastern Roman writer from the sixth century who is believed to be of Gothic descent.<ref>[[Arden R. Smith]], Tolkienian Gothic, in [[Wayne G. Hammond]] & [[Christina Scull]], [[The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004]]: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269</ref> [[Jim Allan]] suggests that the name consists of ''vinid'' (a reference to the ''Vinidi'', the Wends) and ''harya'' derived from ''hari'' ("army"), which could be rendered "man-at-arms" and points out that Jordanes mentioned ''Vinitharius'' as the name of an ancient king of the Ostrogoths.<ref>{{HM|IE}}, p. 190</ref></div></td></tr>
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</table>Shivamhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&diff=370749&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* Etymology */ Added information from An Introduction to Elvish2023-03-20T16:21:36Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> Added information from An Introduction to Elvish</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Valacar, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil,<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II, p. 260</ref> which means "East-victor".<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Tarostar, p. 1044</ref> [[Arden R. Smith]] suggests that it is a modified form of the original reconstructed [[Gothic]] name ''*Winiþa-harjis'', which means "one who battles the Wends". The [[Wikipedia:Wends|Wends]] or ''Winedas'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. He further suggests that the original name that was fictitiously translated by Tolkien as ''Vinitharya'' referred to [[Easterlings]] instead of Wends. The historical bearer of this name, who was called ''Venetharius'' by [[Wikipedia:Jordanes|Jordanes]], an Eastern Roman writer from the sixth century who is believed to be of Gothic descent, was a king of the Ostrogoths of the fourth century and was the grandfather of Theodoric the Great.<ref>[[Arden R. Smith]], Tolkienian Gothic, in [[Wayne G. Hammond]] & [[Christina Scull]], [[The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004]]: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Valacar, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil,<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II, p. 260</ref> which means "East-victor".<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Tarostar, p. 1044</ref> [[Arden R. Smith]] suggests that it is a modified form of the original reconstructed [[Gothic]] name ''*Winiþa-harjis'', which means "one who battles the Wends". The [[Wikipedia:Wends|Wends]] or ''Winedas'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. He further suggests that the original name that was fictitiously translated by Tolkien as ''Vinitharya'' referred to [[Easterlings]] instead of Wends. The historical bearer of this name, who was called ''Venetharius'' by [[Wikipedia:Jordanes|Jordanes]], an Eastern Roman writer from the sixth century who is believed to be of Gothic descent, was a king of the Ostrogoths of the fourth century and was the grandfather of Theodoric the Great.<ref>[[Arden R. Smith]], Tolkienian Gothic, in [[Wayne G. Hammond]] & [[Christina Scull]], [[The Lord of the Rings 1954-2004]]: Scholarship in Honor of Richard E. Blackwelder, p. 269<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ref> [[Jim Allan]] suggests that the name consists of ''vinid'' (a reference to the ''Vinidi'', the Wends) and ''harya'' derived from ''hari'' ("army"), which could be rendered "man-at-arms" and points out that Jordanes mentioned ''Vinitharius'' as the name of an ancient king of the Ostrogoths.<ref>{{HM|IE}}, p. 190</ins></ref></div></td></tr>
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</table>Akhorahilhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&diff=367364&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* Etymology */ Used the etymology that was provided by the Tolkien linguist and Germanic linguist Arden R. Smith and added his work as a reference2023-01-23T12:18:29Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> Used the etymology that was provided by the Tolkien linguist and Germanic linguist Arden R. Smith and added his work as a reference</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</del><ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II</ref> <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Winid</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">haria </del>is a [[Gothic]] name <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">meaning "pasture</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">armyman</del>" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or </del>"[[Wikipedia:Wends|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Winidas</del>]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-armyman". The Wends </del>or ''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Winidas</del>'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A possible analogy of </del>the ''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Winidas</del>'' <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">within the legendarium could be the </del>[[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Middle Men</del>]] who <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">belonged to </del>[[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gondor</del>]], a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">suitable reference for </del>the [[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Northmen</del>]]. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Note that it should be pronounced as Vinit</del>-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">harya (as </del>in <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''plot-hole'')</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and '''not''' as **Viniþarya</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, entry for King Valacar</ins>, pp. 1046</ref> It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">,</ins><ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, p. 260</ins></ref> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">which means "East</ins>-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">victor".<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for King Tarostar, p. 1044</ref> [[Arden R. Smith]] suggests that it </ins>is a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">modified form of the original reconstructed </ins>[[Gothic]] name <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''*Winiþa</ins>-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">harjis'', which means </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">one who battles the Wends</ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. The </ins>[[Wikipedia:Wends|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Wends</ins>]] or ''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Winedas</ins>'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">He further suggests that </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">original name that was fictitiously translated by Tolkien as </ins>''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Vinitharya</ins>'' <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">referred to </ins>[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Easterlings</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">instead of Wends. The historical bearer of this name, </ins>who <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">was called ''Venetharius'' by </ins>[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Wikipedia:Jordanes|Jordanes</ins>]], <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an Eastern Roman writer from the sixth century who is believed to be of Gothic descent, was </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">king of the Ostrogoths of the fourth century and was the grandfather of Theodoric </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Great.<ref></ins>[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Arden R. 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</table>Ar-Zigûrhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&diff=343343&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* Etymology */ Added that it was a name in the language of the Northmen that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi and added a reference for that statement.2022-03-16T09:01:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> Added that it was a name in the language of the Northmen that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi and added a reference for that statement.</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is said that the name <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Vinitharya </del>had much the same meaning as Rómendacil.<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''Vinitharya'' is a name in the language of the [[Northmen]] that was spoken by his mother Vidumavi.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, pp. 1046</ref> </ins>It is said that the name had much the same meaning as Rómendacil.<ref>{{PM|Ai}}, Note on the expansion of the tale of the Kin-strife in the Second Edition, entry 19 Romendakil II</ref> Winid-haria is a [[Gothic]] name meaning "pasture-armyman" or "[[Wikipedia:Wends|Winidas]]-armyman". The Wends or ''Winidas'' (in [[Old English]]) were a Slavic people who dwelt inside Germanic territories. A possible analogy of the ''Winidas'' within the legendarium could be the [[Middle Men]] who belonged to [[Gondor]], a suitable reference for the [[Northmen]]. Note that it should be pronounced as Vinit-harya (as in ''plot-hole''), and '''not''' as **Viniþarya.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Eldacar'' is a [[Quenya]] name. It means "Elfhelm".<ref>{{TI|River}}, note 18, p. 366</ref> It is a compound of ''[[elda]]'' ("elf") and the suffixal form ''-car'' of ''[[karma|carma]]'' ("helm").<ref>{{webcite|author=Paul Strack|articleurl=https://www.eldamo.org/content/words/word-2436216133.html|articlename=Q. ''Eldacar'' m.|website=Eldamo|accessed=27 January 2022}}</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''Eldacar'' is a [[Quenya]] name. It means "Elfhelm".<ref>{{TI|River}}, note 18, p. 366</ref> It is a compound of ''[[elda]]'' ("elf") and the suffixal form ''-car'' of ''[[karma|carma]]'' ("helm") <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">also seen in [[Valacar]]</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>{{PE|17}}, p. 114 entry Q ''Eldacar; Valacar''</ref></ins><ref>{{webcite|author=Paul Strack|articleurl=https://www.eldamo.org/content/words/word-2436216133.html|articlename=Q. ''Eldacar'' m.|website=Eldamo|accessed=27 January 2022}}</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Eldacar''' ({{TA|1255}}<ref>{{PM|Elendil}}</ref> – {{TA|1490|n}},<ref>{{App|South}}</ref> aged 235 years) was the twenty-first King of [[Gondor]]. He was born with the name '''Vinitharya''' as the royal son of [[Valacar]] of Gondor and [[Vidumavi]], daughter of the [[King of Rhovanion]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Eldacar''' ({{TA|1255}}<ref <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">name="Elendil"</ins>>{{PM|Elendil}}</ref> – {{TA|1490|n}},<ref>{{App|South}}</ref> aged 235 years) was the twenty-first King of [[Gondor]]. He was born with the name '''Vinitharya''' as the royal son of [[Valacar]] of Gondor and [[Vidumavi]], daughter of the [[King of Rhovanion]].</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Eldacar's father Valacar had gone to live among the [[Northmen]] of King [[Vidugavia]]'s realm in {{TA|1250}}. While there Valacar fell in love with and married the King's daughter, princess Vidumavi. Their son was named Vinitharya, would later be called Eldacar.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for king Minalcar who took the name Rómendacil (II) and entry for king Valacar</ref> In {{TA|1260|n}}, when Valacar returned to Gondor, he gave to Vinitharya the name of Eldacar, which Vinitharya retained when he inherited Gondor's throne. Valacar had also brought his family and a household of noble Northmen back to Gondor.<ref>{{PM|Ai}}</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Eldacar's father Valacar had gone to live among the [[Northmen]] of King [[Vidugavia]]'s realm in {{TA|1250}}. While there Valacar fell in love with and married the King's daughter, princess Vidumavi. Their son was named Vinitharya, would later be called Eldacar.<ref>{{App|Gondor}}, entry for king Minalcar who took the name Rómendacil (II) and entry for king Valacar</ref> In {{TA|1260|n}}, when Valacar returned to Gondor, he gave to Vinitharya the name of Eldacar, which Vinitharya retained when he inherited Gondor's throne. Valacar had also brought his family and a household of noble Northmen back to Gondor.<ref>{{PM|Ai}}</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The high men of [[Gondor]] frowned upon Valacar's marriage to a woman of alien and [[Middle Men|"lesser" race]] for they feared that Vidumavi's descendants would prove short-lived. As Valacar grew old rebellion smouldered in the southern fiefs of Gondor since many refused to accept Eldacar as their upcoming lord. When Eldacar succeeded his father in {{TA|1432}} full civil war erupted, called the [[Kin-strife]].<ref name="Gondor"/></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The high men of [[Gondor]] frowned upon Valacar's marriage to a woman of alien and [[Middle Men|"lesser" race]] for they feared that Vidumavi's descendants would prove short-lived. As Valacar grew old rebellion smouldered in the southern fiefs of Gondor since many refused to accept Eldacar as their upcoming lord. When Eldacar succeeded his father in {{TA|1432}} full civil war erupted, called the [[Kin-strife]].<ref name="Gondor"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">>{{App|TA}}<</ins>/<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ref</ins>></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Eldacar showed no sign of more rapid aging than any of the [[Dúnedain]] and displayed fearlessness in opposing those who sought to depose him. However, the rebels came against him in great strength and lay a siege that laid waste to [[Osgiliath]] (and caused the loss of the ''[[Osgiliath-stone|palantír]]'' kept in the Tower of the Stone). As Eldacar fled the city to [[Rhovanion]] a distant relative named [[Castamir]] claimed his throne and had Eldacar's son [[Ornendil]] put to death.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Eldacar showed no sign of more rapid aging than any of the [[Dúnedain]] and displayed fearlessness in opposing those who sought to depose him. However, the rebels came against him in great strength and lay a siege that laid waste to [[Osgiliath]] (and caused the loss of the ''[[Osgiliath-stone|palantír]]'' kept in the Tower of the Stone). As Eldacar fled the city to [[Rhovanion]] a distant relative named [[Castamir]] claimed his throne and had Eldacar's son [[Ornendil]] put to death.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The high men of [[Gondor]] frowned upon Valacar's marriage to a woman of alien and [[Middle Men|"lesser" race]] for they feared that Vidumavi's descendants would prove short-lived. As Valacar grew old rebellion smouldered in the southern fiefs of Gondor since many refused to accept Eldacar as their upcoming lord. When Eldacar succeeded his father in {{TA|1432}} full civil war erupted, called the [[Kin-strife]].<ref name="Gondor"/></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The high men of [[Gondor]] frowned upon Valacar's marriage to a woman of alien and [[Middle Men|"lesser" race]] for they feared that Vidumavi's descendants would prove short-lived. As Valacar grew old rebellion smouldered in the southern fiefs of Gondor since many refused to accept Eldacar as their upcoming lord. When Eldacar succeeded his father in {{TA|1432}} full civil war erupted, called the [[Kin-strife]].<ref name="Gondor"/></div></td></tr>
</table>Cellindirhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Eldacar_(King_of_Gondor)&diff=342578&oldid=prevAkhorahil: /* Genealogy */ Changed the year of death of Vidumavi to the one that was used in the Vidumavi page2022-02-23T14:31:46Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Genealogy: </span> Changed the year of death of Vidumavi to the one that was used in the Vidumavi page</span></p>
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