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'''Carnen''' — [[Sindarin]] for '''Redwater''' — is a [[Rivers|river]] that flows southward from the [[Iron Hills]] east of the [[Lonely Mountain]] until it meets the [[Celduin]] about 250 [[Númenórean]] miles to the south. From there the rivers flow as one to the [[Sea of Rhûn]], past the land of [[Dorwinion]].
'''Carnen''' &mdash; [[Sindarin]] for '''Redwater''' &mdash; was a [[:Category:Rivers|river]] that flowed generally southward from the [[Iron Hills]] east of the [[Lonely Mountain]] until it met the [[River Running|Celduin]] about 250 [[Númenóreans|Númenórean]] miles to the south.<ref>{{UT|Map}}</ref>  Its course lay in the boundary region between "The North" (the northwestern region of [[Middle-earth]]) and the vast "East" (the area called [[Rhûn]]).<ref>{{UT|Istari}}</ref>


It is not exactly clear what the name of the river is past the point where Celduin and Carnen meet, but the map suggests that Carnen becomes the name of the combined river. Although the area was not mapped by Tolkien the Carnen must have flowed past many villages of [[Men]], as the Men of [[Dale]] and [[Esgaroth]] traded with someone in the region.
Between the time when [[Thráin I]] founded the dwarf-kingdom in the Lonely Mountain (in {{TA|1999|n}}) and the arrival of [[Smaug]] (in {{TA|2770|n}}<ref>{{App|TA}}</ref>) the Northmen living between the Celduin and Carnen grew strong and repelled all eastern enemies.<ref>{{App|Durin}}</ref>  This area became depopulated after the arrival of the dragon but again filled with Northmen after Smaug's demise. During the [[War of the Ring]] the northern host of [[Sauron]] crossed the Carnen and drove the forces of King [[Brand]] back to [[Dale]].<ref>{{App|Great}}</ref>
 
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Revision as of 13:01, 29 September 2014

CarnenSindarin for Redwater — was a river that flowed generally southward from the Iron Hills east of the Lonely Mountain until it met the Celduin about 250 Númenórean miles to the south.[1] Its course lay in the boundary region between "The North" (the northwestern region of Middle-earth) and the vast "East" (the area called Rhûn).[2]

Between the time when Thráin I founded the dwarf-kingdom in the Lonely Mountain (in 1999) and the arrival of Smaug (in 2770[3]) the Northmen living between the Celduin and Carnen grew strong and repelled all eastern enemies.[4] This area became depopulated after the arrival of the dragon but again filled with Northmen after Smaug's demise. During the War of the Ring the northern host of Sauron crossed the Carnen and drove the forces of King Brand back to Dale.[5]

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